stitchwhich: (Default)
[personal profile] stitchwhich
I have a question for those reading this who are also in the SCA.

What would you feel about a woman who mooned (dropped her drawers and presented her bare bottom to others) a performer she knew well during a bardic circle in her baronial encampment while children were present? Would you find this amusing? Would your feelings be different if the woman was a newcomer, or a mid-level award holder, or a Peer? Would you have differing views depending upon circumstances?

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Date: 2017-07-13 06:38 pm (UTC)
kareina: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kareina
It would totally depend on the circumstances. What percentage of people present are old friends? What, if any, nudity taboos apply locally? Had she and the performer been heckling one another all evening, and this was simply escalation, or was it totally out of the blue? Was the performance a touching and heartwarming one and this disrupted the mood for everyone, or was it a humorous piece and the incident simply triggered more laughter in an already laugh-rich environment? Have the children been raised in a body-comfortable, or a bodies-are-evil environment? Did they find it funny or were they traumatized?

Why would the rank, station, or longevity of the person's SCA experience matter more than the above questions?

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Date: 2017-07-13 06:40 pm (UTC)
kareina: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kareina
Disclaimers/personal background:

I have been a Viscountess since 1986
Laurel since 2000
Finnish family meant mixed sauna as a child
I grew up in Oertha, which did mixed, nude, hot tub soaking together after and between events regularly
I have lived in many places (including Sweden) where nudity is not really taboo
Edited Date: 2017-07-13 06:41 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2017-07-23 03:03 pm (UTC)
dwolfhunter: (Default)
From: [personal profile] dwolfhunter
First, context is everything.Second, The mooner should have better gauged her audience. Third...please tell me I don't know this person.

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Date: 2017-07-17 02:28 am (UTC)
cellio: (sca)
From: [personal profile] cellio
+1. The circumstances matter.

I do expect more of peers -- not "they shouldn't do that", because as you said under some circumstances this mooning would be just fine -- but if it wasn't ok, I'd be more mad at a peer (or somebody on a peerage survey list) than a newcomer for making the mistake. Peers are supposed to set good examples.

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Date: 2017-07-13 11:14 pm (UTC)
isabelladangelo: (err no)
From: [personal profile] isabelladangelo
I don't care what a person's station is - rude is rude. There are lines not to be crossed and that seems not only very immature but also a sign that they aren't considering their environment and thinking only of getting one upmanship. If it was at a baronial encampment I was at, not only would I call the individual out - it wouldn't matter what sex they were- I would refuse to allow the person to camp near me ever again.

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Date: 2017-07-14 02:06 am (UTC)
tedeisenstein: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tedeisenstein
Not amusing. Peers should be held to a higher standard of, err, standards: you just don't do that with children around. Newcomers, ditto, especially if they're over 18: their standards may not be peerage level, but they should better.
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