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[stitchwhich]

I have a question for those reading this who are also in the SCA.

What would you feel about a woman who mooned (dropped her drawers and presented her bare bottom to others) a performer she knew well during a bardic circle in her baronial encampment while children were present? Would you find this amusing? Would your feelings be different if the woman was a newcomer, or a mid-level award holder, or a Peer? Would you have differing views depending upon circumstances?

Comments

[kareina]

It would totally depend on the circumstances. What percentage of people present are old friends? What, if any, nudity taboos apply locally? Had she and the performer been heckling one another all evening, and this was simply escalation, or was it totally out of the blue? Was the performance a touching and heartwarming one and this disrupted the mood for everyone, or was it a humorous piece and the incident simply triggered more laughter in an already laugh-rich environment? Have the children been raised in a body-comfortable, or a bodies-are-evil environment? Did they find it funny or were they traumatized?

Why would the rank, station, or longevity of the person's SCA experience matter more than the above questions?

[kareina]

Disclaimers/personal background:

I have been a Viscountess since 1986
Laurel since 2000
Finnish family meant mixed sauna as a child
I grew up in Oertha, which did mixed, nude, hot tub soaking together after and between events regularly
I have lived in many places (including Sweden) where nudity is not really taboo

[isabelladangelo]

I don't care what a person's station is - rude is rude. There are lines not to be crossed and that seems not only very immature but also a sign that they aren't considering their environment and thinking only of getting one upmanship. If it was at a baronial encampment I was at, not only would I call the individual out - it wouldn't matter what sex they were- I would refuse to allow the person to camp near me ever again.

[tedeisenstein]

Not amusing. Peers should be held to a higher standard of, err, standards: you just don't do that with children around. Newcomers, ditto, especially if they're over 18: their standards may not be peerage level, but they should better.

[stitchwhich]

It was in Atlantia, in North Carolina, a strict bible-belt area, so casual nudity is cause for jail time. Not a land of "seen but not noticed", unfortunately.

The rank mattered only because of some 'SCA excusable' perceptions. Like - "that type of behavior from a squire or a knight wouldn't surprise me or be all that objectionable " as opposed to "that person better not be on a watch list for Peerage because their behavior is beyond what is acceptable", or even "they are always like that but since they are 'just a regular player' and are not trying to move up in rank I don't really care."

[cellio]

+1. The circumstances matter.

I do expect more of peers -- not "they shouldn't do that", because as you said under some circumstances this mooning would be just fine -- but if it wasn't ok, I'd be more mad at a peer (or somebody on a peerage survey list) than a newcomer for making the mistake. Peers are supposed to set good examples.

[dwolfhunter]

First, context is everything.Second, The mooner should have better gauged her audience. Third...please tell me I don't know this person.

[stitchwhich]

the mooner was quite drunk and immediately repented of their action afterwards, apologizing to anyone they thought had been there.

Unfortunately, I cannot tell you what you want to hear concerning your knowing them or not.